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Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [akirby]
by larsb on Mon Jan 05 14:19:15 PST 2009
Actually, you have it reversed. The EPA "lab tests" just SIMULATE real driving. Real drivers, and real owners, are not SIMULATING anything - their results are "real world" results - much closer to what a REAL driver will get. People in the real world don't drive in a lab, the same way, with the same weather, the same route, same driver, same acceleration, speed, duration, same type of fuel. It's the EPA numbers which should be taken with a grain of salt and the real-world numbers which are more realistic - not the other way around. The EPA numbers are merely a basis of comparison to be used by car shoppers when comparing one or more potential cars to buy. That's all.
Re: maybe [nippononly]
by larsb on Mon Jan 05 12:40:43 PST 2009
nippononly says, "Oh, and count me in for a diesel Clubman under $22 grand. I would go out today and get one of those if it were available. " Ditto that remark. I was tempted to buy even the gas version earlier this year. At $22K for the diesel ClubMan, it's a TOTAL no-brainer.
Re: 2005 TOY 4 RUNNER Purchase / Turn In Decision [charlielab]
by volvomax on Mon Jan 05 11:59:40 PST 2009
Just call em up and make an offer. I think that price range is reasonable.
Re: Fusion Hybrid '10 availability [akirby]
by larsb on Mon Jan 05 11:31:59 PST 2009
TCH has combined MPG of 33 and the non-hybrid I4 has a combined MPG of 26. That's a 26.9% improvement. Just Sayin'.
Re: 2006 Subaru Legacy LTD Wagon [georgehughes35]
by volvomax on Mon Jan 05 09:03:51 PST 2009
That car would probably wholesale in the mid teens, so Carmax asking $18k isn't out of bounds.
Re: More 2010 news-- [cubssoxs]
by atb2 on Sun Jan 04 19:16:04 PST 2009
It's hard to say considering the state of the economy. In normal times I would say in the same manner as the last three MY's, but with car sales in the tank, there may be more fanfare with this rollout.

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